Skip to content

Added PowerSaving for all ESP32-based repeaters#1687

Open
IoTThinks wants to merge 9 commits intomeshcore-dev:devfrom
IoTThinks:MCdev-PowerSaving-for-all-esp32-repeaters-202602
Open

Added PowerSaving for all ESP32-based repeaters#1687
IoTThinks wants to merge 9 commits intomeshcore-dev:devfrom
IoTThinks:MCdev-PowerSaving-for-all-esp32-repeaters-202602

Conversation

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor

@IoTThinks IoTThinks commented Feb 13, 2026

Hi friends,
This is the cleanup PR for this old PR #1353
The changes are below:

  1. (New) Let ESP32-based repeaters to sleep immediately receiving and process a LoRa packet
  2. (New) Added detailed response for powersaving CLI
  3. Supported sleep for all ESP32-based repeaters
  4. (New) Reduced time drift ESP32-based repeaters in power saving
  5. Added getIRQGpio to return DIO1 (SX1262) and DIO0 (SX127x)
  6. Fixed DIO0, DIO1 and RESET for Heltec v2. This is to allow Heltec v2 to do power saving. Well, I have a lot of requests to support Heltec v2.
  7. Added getIRQGpio to return DIO0 for Lilygo T3S3 SX1276
  8. Added getIRQGpio to return DIO0 for Lilygo TLoRa SX1276

I have tested with RAK4631, Heltec v3, Heltec v4 and Heltec V4 with ESPNOW.
I will set this as Draft to see if I miss anything and let all of my repeaters to run for a while.

Thanks a lot and have a nice day.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 13, 2026

Still need to fix for those TBeam boards.
Will do it tomorrow.

@IoTThinks IoTThinks marked this pull request as ready for review February 14, 2026 13:54
@IoTThinks IoTThinks marked this pull request as draft February 14, 2026 14:11
IoTThinks added a commit to IoTThinks/EasySkyMesh that referenced this pull request Feb 14, 2026
@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 14, 2026

@towerviewcams Here you go.
These files are for UPGRADE from existing repeater firmware.
https://github.com/IoTThinks/EasySkyMesh/tree/main/firmware/Testing/PR-1687

This PR should be for ESP32-based repeaters only.
I have tested RAK4631 to ensure the PR does not break PowerSaving in NRF52.

  • powersaving on => It should tell you to have effect immediately.

Testing steps for ESP32-based repeaters

  • powersaving on => It should tell you to to wait 2 minutes to see the power reduction. Around 14mA for Heltec v4. Around 10mA for Heltec v3.
    When receiving a LoRa packet, it will process and sleep again immediately.
  • For heltecv4 with bridge, it will say "Bridge not supported" and will not go to sleep.
  • powersaving off => Returns Off
  • powersaving => To see status On or Off
  • start ota => It will skip sleep and stay at 120mA. You can do OTA as normal. After automatically reboot, the powersaving will automatically run after 2 minutes from boot.
  • clock => for time drift, around 1 minute/24 hours.

Please help to test.
Thanks a lot.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 14, 2026

For Heltec v4, when doing "start ota", the current may jump to ...750mA then down to 124mA.
So if the power supply is not stable for spike or set at low voltage (3.6-3.8v) the "start ota" may fail to start.
I see this happen even if "powersaving off".

It should be ok for battery.

@IoTThinks IoTThinks marked this pull request as ready for review February 15, 2026 03:20
@cra0
Copy link

cra0 commented Feb 15, 2026

+1 testing atm

@towerviewcams
Copy link

towerviewcams commented Feb 15, 2026

V4 testing on two boards results:

*fresh flash 1.13 firmware, powersaving delay is 22 seconds, then drops to 11.6mA sleep.
**testing/PR-1687 flashed over the 1.13 firmware and sleep is FAST! after packet process, sleep is immediate. 11.6mA
(version shows 1.12 29-Jan-2026) on the test bin for PR1687) FYI. I know this file is new because powersaving now reply with "On - After 2 minutes".

I have also verified that the receiver sensitivity remains normal with my lab test companion set to -9 power and the V4 has rssi of my test signals at -117 setup in a RF cage (normal RX level for V4 in my test cage). Also checked to make sure GC1109 has power on VCC pin full time-yes. So the LNA is always on.

Now running live on the mesh here in Oregon USA. repeating packets normally working good.

Next for Rak!

**Update
Testing 2, 4631 rak boards with new stock 1.13 works great and sleep is immediate at 4mA

@beachmiles
Copy link

beachmiles commented Feb 17, 2026

There is a chance that rtc_gpio_hold_dis will release this pin P_LORA_PA_EN to its default state which is off. May want to put the rtc_gpio_hold_dis function after setting the pin. There could be an extremely short blip on waking up after deep sleep that may not really show too much during testing but is not ideal.

pinMode(P_LORA_PA_EN, OUTPUT);
digitalWrite(P_LORA_PA_EN,HIGH);
rtc_gpio_hold_dis((gpio_num_t)P_LORA_PA_EN);

The esp32 docs are not super clear on this rtc_gpio_hold_dis function and may be missing some detail that the gpio_hold_dis function had Discussion about it here.
#1600 (comment)

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 18, 2026

@beachmiles This is required in deepsleep as I understand.

rtc_gpio_hold_dis

This PowerSaving uses light sleep.
So during lightsleep, GPIO states and RAM are intact / unchanged.

@beachmiles
Copy link

beachmiles commented Feb 19, 2026

Initial testing on this firmware is very good with VERY low power usage during sleep (6.7mA at 5.095V / 34.2 mW) and its extremely quick in going back to sleep after handling traffic.
Nice job!!

The bright white LED is still flashing during communication which it ideally wouldn't be doing while in powersave.
I believe this is the P_LORA_TX_LED pin?
Ideally a check for powersaving_enabled flag could be done before running this function,
_board->onBeforeTransmit();

Otherwise you'd have to put the check in each of the onBeforeTransmit functions in all of the variants cpp files. Save a little bit of juice and reducing this small current spike during TX could help keep the PA voltage a bit more steady giving slightly better TX performance?

@mikecarper
Copy link

mikecarper commented Feb 19, 2026

@beachmiles can you remove the led on code and measure the power difference? If it's small then chasing this down might not be worth it; if it's significant then this is important

@towerviewcams
Copy link

@beachmiles can you remove the led on code and measure the power difference? If it's small then chasing this down might not be worth it; if it's significant then this is important

I remove the current limit resister on all my boards. Might be a small amount but why have a light show in a sealed box that no one can see. Buy areas like Oregon is now the benefit is a bit more then slow areas.

@beachmiles
Copy link

beachmiles commented Feb 19, 2026

@beachmiles can you remove the led on code and measure the power difference? If it's small then chasing this down might not be worth it; if it's significant then this is important

Will try to see if I can compile it with it off and do some testing. I am not only concerned about saving a tiny bit of power but also ensuring there is no VCC / 3.3V voltage drop with the bright LED on why transmitting as that same rail is used by the PA chip which could degrade its TX signal strength.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 20, 2026

@towerviewcams @beachmiles Likely very minimum power saved if turn off led after TX.

but also ensuring there is no VCC / 3.3V voltage drop with the bright LED on why transmitting as that same rail is used by the PA chip which could degrade its TX signal strength.

It makes sense.
I actually love to see the led on during TX for ...debugging :D
Generally, the LED seems to be ON for Heltec boards only.

Ideally a check for powersaving_enabled flag could be done before running this function,
_board->onBeforeTransmit();

Let me see if the code can access powersaving_flag.

@Theo-Marshall
Copy link

Theo-Marshall commented Feb 20, 2026

This works great for my ESP32C6 board. Current from 38 mA down to 6.5 mA, basically just spending energy on keeping the sx1262 in RX!
image

@beachmiles
Copy link

beachmiles commented Feb 20, 2026

Excuse my continued editing of this post. My original findings were bad as I was disabling the PA as well as the LED so was seeing way better power savings with the PA off.

I couldn't easily access the powersaving_flag inside RadioLibWrappers.cpp so I just commented out the LED turning on in HeltecV4Board.cpp and built and flashed to my v4.

With the LED on during TX I am seeing ~3.5W spikes that drops the voltage from my 5V usb power supply from 5.09V all the way down to 4.78V.

Edit 3. @mikecarper Having the LED turned off lowers this TX peak to 3.35W and the 5.09V voltage dropping to 4.83V.
So the powersavings with the LED off only saves~150mW during TX blasts which is still not insignificant.

Im guessing the onboard 3.3V regulator is handling this voltage drop without its 3.3V output dropping too far, but Im fairly sure its 3.3V output is not going to be steady during these short blasts of the LED which could slightly decrease the PA signal strength.

Maybe this powersaving flag could be a uint8 instead of a bool so you could set different levels of powersaving for folks that want LEDs flashing and still have decent powersaving. I def love LEDs when I am debugging/troubleshooting but not when its sealed inside a box powered by a battery.

This is the build I finally got working with only 1 line commented out that turns on the LED on the heltec v4 variant.
meshcore_Heltec_v4_Repeater_PR1687_wLED_Off_v3.zip

@mikecarper
Copy link

The savings here are significant. Great find @beachmiles. With powersaving on, led off makes a lot of sense; I don't think we need to make a setting here. If you want blinking lights just turn powersaving off.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 20, 2026

I am willing to off the led in powersaving on.
Still finding a way to reach the powersaving_enabled flag in Heltec v3 and v4.
Do you have any suggested simple fix for this?

BTW, if this is bad not because of power consumption but because of the voltage drop during TX.
Then the LED should not be on during TX at all regardless powersaving is on or off.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

@Theo-Marshall Thanks a lot for your testing.
Glad it works as my Xiao C6 has not reached me yet.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 20, 2026

@mikecarper @beachmiles Confirmed having lower voltage drop via USB cable when LED is on. Measured by realtime usb monitor.
However, this issue happens even in main power and may affect TX.
Actually, the main power will be less stable to current spike like LED compared to battery.

So I suggest we or any friends here propose a way to turn off LED for all boards in all modes instead of just in powersaving mode.

Many boards have this features. RAK4631 does not have it.

@basiccode12
Copy link

basiccode12 commented Feb 21, 2026

@IoTThinks Hi, my apologies on a little confused.

Some places say seeed esp32s3 + WIO works, some say it works with a pin hack. Some say its not working. Any chance I can get an update or eta (no hack).

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 21, 2026

@basiccode12 This new PR requires no pin hack / change for Xiao Wio S3 combo.
This combo has a 30-pin connector link.

You may try the bin here.

https://github.com/IoTThinks/EasySkyMesh/releases/tag/PowerSaving13

Please note Xiao S3 (non Wio) + Wio Sx1262 is different.
This combo uses basic GPIOs only.
It is supported too in the link.
I will create a PR for this combo too.

@basiccode12
Copy link

basiccode12 commented Feb 21, 2026

@basiccode12 This new PR requires no pin hack / change for Xiao Wio S3 combo. This combo has a 30-pin connector link.

You may try the bin here.

https://github.com/IoTThinks/EasySkyMesh/releases/tag/PowerSaving13

Please note Xiao S3 (non Wio) + Wio Sx1262 is different. This combo uses basic GPIOs only. It is supported too in the link. I will create a PR for this combo too.

Thanks!, 66mA for 2 mins then to 9mA on a 30 pin connector type. Went straight back to sleep after repeat.
----> The only thing i noticed is there were no adverts in sleep. Is it supposed to wake for adverts? Has anyone else noticed this?

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

@basiccode12 All esp32 repeaters will wakeup every 30 minutes to check if to send adverts.

Last version, periodically adverts were sent correctly.

This version sleep after a few cycles after wakeup.

Let me monitor the adverts.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

@basiccode12 So your board is Xiao Wio S3.

Does it show battery percentage?

@basiccode12
Copy link

@basiccode12 So your board is Xiao Wio S3.

Does it show battery percentage?

https://core-electronics.com.au/xiao-esp32s3-meshtastic-lora-wio-sx1262-wireless-communication-device.html?gad_campaignid=17417005429

this is mine...to avoid confusion.

no batt percent. I dont think its capable of it, which is suprising considering it comes with dedicated batt pads. I just measure manually.

@basiccode12
Copy link

@basiccode12 All esp32 repeaters will wakeup every 30 minutes to check if to send adverts.

Last version, periodically adverts were sent correctly.

This version sleep after a few cycles after wakeup.

Let me monitor the adverts.

I didnt measure for 30 mins, but that makes sense.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

@basiccode12: My periodically adverts still work fine on Heltec v3 with this PR.

The repeaters will wake up every 30 minutes to check it is time to send periodically adverts.
Or even when it is waken up by LoRa messages, it will loop a few times and check if it is time to send periodically adverts.image image

@beachmiles
Copy link

This build was working great for me with the TX LED off version Ive been testing with. Unfortunately after finally moving my repeater to the roof I my noise floor shot up and I started getting the dreaded -120db noise floor bug.

With it on the roof and a great view of the city and surrounding mountains and my noise floor shot up to -60 to -70 and now is locking up at -120 and Im getting much fewer successfully traceroutes.
My cavity filter doesn't seem to be helping too much unfortunately.

Setting agc.reset.interval to 8 got me better performance but the noise floor lockup at -120 seems to destroy RX performance until I manually reboot. Even after disabling agc.reset.interval by setting it back to 0 and rebooting I still managed to get the noise floor lockup at -120.

Hopefully this powersaving mod and this fixagcreset mod can join forces soon! Sounds like it may be in the works and already being tested by @towerviewcams. Hope its successful and looking forward to the results!
https://github.com/weebl2000/MeshCore/tree/fixagcreset

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

@beachmiles I will do a merge with AGC reset PR today.

You prefer dev or main branch?

@beachmiles
Copy link

@IoTThinks I dont know enough between dev and main to make an informed choice. I am looking for the most stable version with the highest chance of success. But it looks like a build was made merging 1569, 1600 and 1687 already. Gonna test it out now.
#1743 (comment)

@towerviewcams
Copy link

towerviewcams commented Feb 27, 2026

@IoTThinks I dont know enough between dev and main to make an informed choice. I am looking for the most stable version with the highest chance of success. But it looks like a build was made merging 1569, 1600 and 1687 already. Gonna test it out now. #1743 (comment)

So far its fantastic on 3, V4 in my lab and now 1 on a high noise tower site.

tomorrow morning I'll know for sure as this takes 24hrs to really test

@terminalvelocity23
Copy link

After some more testing I can confirm that with this PR the repeater becomes much more sluggish in all aspects. I can't reliably login into the administrative interface, the UI throws timeouts with things like neighbor tabl, requesting LoRa settings and the like more often than not, and the CLI is slower, too. The ACKs to my outgoing messages get delayed to 10 seconds or so.
With powersaving off everything returns to normal.
With powersaving off, I can see reliable CLI behavior, 10/10 command successes. With it on, it's only 8/10 with significant delays.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

IoTThinks commented Feb 27, 2026

@terminalvelocity23 I suggest you can try this PR alone to test the behavior instead of mixing many PRs.
Please help to test the bin for Heltec v3 here.
It is main MeshCore + this PR.
https://github.com/IoTThinks/EasySkyMesh/releases/tag/PowerSaving13

Btw, how many hops you use to remote manage your repeater?
What are your agc reset interval and int.thresh?
I would like to simulate what you have experienced.

@h0lad
Copy link

h0lad commented Feb 27, 2026

I'm just building the latest release for my own hardware and will throw it on the roof

@terminalvelocity23
Copy link

terminalvelocity23 commented Feb 27, 2026

@terminalvelocity23 I suggest you can try this PR alone to test the behavior instead of mixing many PRs. Please help to test the bin for Heltec v3 here. It is main MeshCore + this PR. https://github.com/IoTThinks/EasySkyMesh/releases/tag/PowerSaving13

Btw, how many hops you use to remote manage your repeater? What are your agc reset interval and int.thresh? I would like to simulate what you have experienced.

I don't have a V3 on hand anymore, but I have a V4. Zero hops, it's a direct route from client to repeater, they're like 5 meters apart from each other (the tx power on a client is set to 3 dBm to avoid overloading the receiver on the repeater). agc.reset.interval is 8, int.thresh 15, af 5, txdelay 0.5, rxdelay 0.5, direct.txdelay 0.

I'll flash your firmware to my V4 and give it a try.

@IoTThinks
Copy link
Contributor Author

@towerviewcams May be the mixed of 3 PRs has some side effects.
Let me explore the source code of the other two PRs.

In the meantime, you may test with PS 13 on Heltec v4 first.
This is to confirm this PR works.

If there is anything we can improve to make 3 PRs live together, we will improve it. :)

@terminalvelocity23
Copy link

So far it works fine on the bench, the only hiccup is the occasional CLI freeze (2 out of 10 or so). I've put it in place of my main repeater, let's see how it will handle the load. It's connected to a 5 element Yagi through a cavity BPF, height above ground is about 50 meters, so it hears quite a lot of packets.

@terminalvelocity23
Copy link

After 40 minutes of testing it went deaf, stuck at -120 dBm. The responsivity is alright though, no complaints here. Looks like this PR alone isn't the one to blame for the sluggishness.

Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment

Labels

None yet

Projects

None yet

Development

Successfully merging this pull request may close these issues.

9 participants